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D. Yessa
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Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

D. Yessa » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:00 am

Just to clarify the current progress: we are now trying to simplify the UI for new s. Our next goal is to bring back the features that s need, keeping the UI simple.

Super wrote:Missing the option "Start minimized" - at the start of the should only pop up a window with of the file, and the main window should be in the system tray.

One of our key ideas was to get rid of multiple popup windows. If you something with FDM 3, you may get 3 or 4 windows at a time, even if you don't need them at all, you just want to a file! Some windows can be easily closed, some can't: you try to close one, it's not closed, instead, another window appears like this one:
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and so on. This default behavior is unacceptable, even if these windows make sense for some people in some cases.

Now, about the separate popup window to add . Does a big window like the one below really make you uncomfortable?
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Does it overlap some important info, or so? Or, it's just not that you're used to? Please describe your problem in details, we can't get it.
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yedvuu

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Postby yedvuu » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:05 pm

Can/will all features be available?
Also why is the size so big?
And please give us a Linux version(native & portable)
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Super
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ed: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:04 am

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Super » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:28 pm

In FDM 3.x popup after click link for , start without main window program.
First starting in FDM 5 the main window shows a unnecessarily, because then you have to minimize them to the system tray.
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Guest

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Postby Guest » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:41 am

Agree. No reason to show main window. Display only the new add info. Nothing wrong with being a big window with preview etc. I really like the way it is on the image you posted, but really, no reason to show main window on top only to make me minimize it again after clicking OK.
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D. Yessa
FDM Team
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ed: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:53 am

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

D. Yessa » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:55 am

yedvuu wrote:Can/will all features be available?

There are 2 steps:
1. You list the features you really need.
2. We implement the features you really need.

yedvuu wrote:Also why is the size so big?

First, we need some HTML UI framework for new amazing features. It's mostly about incredibly seamless integration with browsers. For Windows, it's CEF 3, it's nearly 20 Mbytes. For Mac, we use a system browser (maybe we'll do it on Windows, too).
Another 10 Mbytes are Qt libs. We need some stable cross-platform core libs, Qt looked like the best choice so far. We got a lot of problems with wininet on FDM 3.
And media converter takes 7 Mbytes (pretty much the same as in FDM 3).

yedvuu wrote:And please give us a Linux version(native & portable)

It's surely possible, it's in our future plans.
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D. Yessa
FDM Team
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ed: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:53 am

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

D. Yessa » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:58 am

Super wrote:In FDM 3.x popup after click link for , start without main window program.
First starting in FDM 5 the main window shows a unnecessarily, because then you have to minimize them to the system tray.

Guest wrote:Agree. No reason to show main window. Display only the new add info. Nothing wrong with being a big window with preview etc. I really like the way it is on the image you posted, but really, no reason to show main window on top only to make me minimize it again after clicking OK.

So, you mean, it's not about the window size, it's about the unnecessary click to close/minimize that window after a new is added?
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Super
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ed: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:04 am

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Super » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:31 am

@D. Yessa

Yes, The option "Run minimized" should work in General. As the FDM 3. xxx. Not only at startup with Windows.
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yedvuuu

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Postby yedvuuu » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:11 pm

yedvuu wrote:
And please give us a Linux version(native & portable)


It's surely possible, it's in our future plans.

Glad it is hope o see a native & portable version soon(even alpha to test)

Regarding features i guess i used nearly all features of 3.x , FDM is so feature rich that other DM don't even compare to it.
So hoping you guys add all features from 3.x(not all at once).

Also just a request that can we make it look like 3.x?? I personally like it's UI more to my liking.
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D. Yessa
FDM Team
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Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

D. Yessa » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:27 pm

Version 5.1.2 released.

"Force recheck" option, some stability fixes, and more.

VVS wrote:Periodically crash module wincomserver.exe.
You need dumps?

Please send us the new dumps from v5.1.2+.
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Samu

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Postby Samu » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:09 pm

It would be interesting to manually set a default folder for each tag.
Ex. Tags:. Torrents> A folder
Youtube> Videos Folder
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Guest

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:21 am

D. Yessa wrote:So, you mean, it's not about the window size, it's about the unnecessary click to close/minimize that window after a new is added?


Exactly. Open just the new info window, no need for the main UI to load behind it. About the size, Modern Design and Material Design are all about big notifications anyway. I see no problem it staying the way it is on your screenshot. I like big icons and clean and clear info :D
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Ritesh Patel

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Postby Ritesh Patel » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:29 am

The link is not for all. So I can not give here. It requires ID and . Really sorry for that. The link is of mp3 audio file. But if I will get same problem on other link, I shall give you.
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Guest

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:15 pm

Guest wrote:
D. Yessa wrote:So, you mean, it's not about the window size, it's about the unnecessary click to close/minimize that window after a new is added?


Exactly. Open just the new info window, no need for the main UI to load behind it. About the size, Modern Design and Material Design are all about big notifications anyway. I see no problem it staying the way it is on your screenshot. I like big icons and clean and clear info :D

I would like to see progress window like in fdm3.
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Welaxxx
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ed: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:59 pm

Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

Welaxxx » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:34 am

hi sir

we need button beside any video in youtube or other site same youtube same like IDM ( internet manager ) this will be great

thx
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dko
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Re: FDM 5.1 Beta 373h4k

dko » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:16 am

D. Yessa wrote:
Super wrote:In FDM 3.x popup after click link for , start without main window program.
First starting in FDM 5 the main window shows a unnecessarily, because then you have to minimize them to the system tray.

Guest wrote:Agree. No reason to show main window. Display only the new add info. Nothing wrong with being a big window with preview etc. I really like the way it is on the image you posted, but really, no reason to show main window on top only to make me minimize it again after clicking OK.

So, you mean, it's not about the window size, it's about the unnecessary click to close/minimize that window after a new is added?



Hi D.Yessa :D ,

As you've asked about this I 100% agree with Guest.

I have from time to time tried to move from 3.9.x to 5.1 but have always returned within hours due to lack of settings I want that do not exist yet in 5.1. One example is I like showing a file that is being in the process of being ed (not hidden) and with a suffix on incomplete. Then I know if it has stopped or failed or is still being ed. If s were some time before I immediately know which are no good and which were successful.

with regard to the s. The ONLY window I use with 3.9.x is the "show s info while in progress". I set its size to show 2 rows at one time and place in in bottom right corner. I LIKE to see how s are progressing (especially when large file sizes which will take time. I am not interested in seeing the main screen and do not wish to see it (unless I wish to see more info for some reason during the or am analysing or making settings changes). FDM is a highly important and useful utility to me but it is not something I wish covering a large section of my screen with when I want it mostly in the background (as I am sure most s do).

I do NOT wish to have to hide the Main Window when setting up a or while it is in progress as I get on with other things that I do wish to see on screen.
The 3.9.x "show s info while in progress" window is perfect showing basic info I do want to see it and when completed, it asks me if I wish to open the ed file. Being flexibly small I can tuck it away on my 1920x1080 screen and still have all I want open and visible at the same time.. I wish to see that as is in 5.1 and that is my number one setting wish.

May I offer a couple of intended to be proactive comments:
s see things differently from what Developers often do which may not seem logical or of same priority to a programmer. BUT s are what all apps are intended for (except dev tools, languages etc. ).
Your team is 100% correct in catering for a simple and more modern GUI and the huge numbers of s who just want s to work without needing to understand or make settings will really appreciate it. However, there are huge numbers of s of FDM who like and want the ability to fine tune settings as they desire, to meet their specific needs. IMHO I feel sure most of the s still sticking with 3.9.x are of this thinking (as I am) and that 5.1 from many a 3.9.x s point of view is currently too "dumbed down" and visibly intrusive when setting up and doing a ).

Does 5.1 need to be black or white. Why can't it provide most of the settings in 3.9.x 5.1.
By all means set defaults (as you do in 3.9.x) but allow s who want, to be able, to make their own settings they desire. Currently 5.1 seems to be mostly catering for modern design, x-platform and easy to use for beginners. I fully appreciate it is still in Beta and that the Dev. team say it plans to add more settings in due course based on desires
Why are they not part of 5.1 Beta already? I feel many popular ones should ALREADY be obvious and known to Developers, based on what people wanted and liked in 3.x.x builds over the years. I ask because, if you wish more FDM s to use and test 5.1, then they need to be able to work with it doing mostly doing what they need at the outset. How many, like me, are holding back and only taking infrequent looks at 5.1 and therefore not giving valuable testing input because they feel it is currently too limited on settings options, some of which they really want.

You may recall some time back were asking why they could not choose a folder during 5.1 alpha days. That alone made me uninstall 5.1, it as I consider that a fundamental basic requirement that I feel most would want.

I seem to recall reading that some settings features of 3.9.x (please forgive me if I am mistaken) are difficult to provide in 5.1 due to x-platform requirements and issues. I fully understand why you wish x-platform, but those s that do not need x-platform will only be thinking that they have less features than they had with 3.9.x. Unless the settings issues are resolved I feel many s will stick with 3.9.x until such time as Development ends and it stops functioning.

I believe if you wish s to migrate to 5.1 "en masse" then the Dev. team needs to add as many of the most important and useful 3.9.x settings into 5.1 as soon as possible, then there will be no reason for 3.9.x s not to switch.

My final thought D.Yessa, is that having multiple settings in 5.1 will NOT make it harder to use provided you have set defaults and the GUI is simple and FDM 5.1 operates easily with minimal knowledge without making any settings changes (or very minimal) . Those who DO wish to "fine tune" 5.1 should be able to do so the Settings cog wheel.

I feel there has been a reluctance and slow progress to offer many more settings options already in 3.x.x hence the lack of enthusiasm from some. I feel whilst there will always be the "Old is better" and "I don't like change" s, I do feel the many concerns about lack of settings options in FDM 5.1 are 100% valid and I personally feel the nice looking GUI is too much in your face and large (far better would be an option to hide it more, unless desired to be seen ). Is it large like to accommodate none PC platforms such as Tablets and Smart phones? If so that would explain a lot. As I am a PC only, with formerly a 19 inch and now a 21 inch monitor, I do not need a large FDM App Window and less visibility is much more desirable.

D. Yessa, FDM 3.x.x has been my most used and loved app over the years and I am looking forward to 5.1 becoming my most loved and used app in due course.
I thank you and all the Team for what you have done for us over the years and will continue to do. its much appreciated.

IMPORTANT EDIT (2nd Feb 2016) TO THE NEXT PARA ONLY JUST NOTICED. I must have accidentally cut out the final part of the sentence in my OP

:D I look forward to migrating to 5.1 but cannot yet until the "more settings" people are requesting are incorporated in 5.1 and for me the ability to have the 3.9.x style of window for "show s info while in progress"

I offer my sincere apologies to all, and especially the Dev. Team for giving an original impression that I was wanting the 3.9.x style throughout 5.1 which is NOT the case

Kind regards to all the Dev. Team
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